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"Mohammad II Pgs 5-8 "

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"Keep(ing) My word," i.e., don’t abuse and don’t use that Word in you and if Jesus in you wants to speak through you, it is entirely His decision -His exact words and His voice type, i.e., whether His majestic voice or not: PLUS trying to help that word develop in a loving and compassionate way" and "Keeping My word would be a matter of using it for your own glory or like when A and B have an argument and A keeps, i.e., takes every chance to remember and use B’s words in this argument against B". Don’t we all know how annoying people can be who make keeping of others’ words and using these words against them? Further, this fact of Bible interpretation is found in at least two other pairs of Bible verses: 1) Proverbs 26:4 says, "Do not answer a fool according to his folly. Lest you also be like him. Versus Proverbs 26:5 which says, "Answer a fool as his folly deserves, Lest he be wise in his own eyes."; 2) Isaiah 28:9-13 says, "To whom would He teach knowledge? And to whom would He interpret the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just taken from the breast? For He says, ‘Order on order, order on order, Line on line, line on line, A little here, a ,little there.’" Indeed He will speak to this people Through stammering lips and a foreign tongue, He who said to them, "Here is rest, give rest to the weary," And "Here is repose, but they would not listen. So the word of the LORD to them will be, "Order on order, order on order, Line on line, line on line, A little here, a little there, " That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared, and taken captive."

According to the Living Bible, Zechariah 13:1-9 says, "At that time a Fountain will be opened to the people of Israel and Jerusalem,..... "And the Lord of hosts declares, "In that day I will get rid of every vestige of Idol worship throughout the land,...."Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, the man who is my associate and equal,".... Strike down the Shepherd and the sheep will scatter, but I will come back and comfort and care for the lambs. Two-thirds of all the nation of Israel will be cut off and die, but a third will be left in the land. I will bring the third that remain through the fire and make them pure,.... They will call upon my name and I will hear them; I will say,’These are my people,; and they will say,’The Lord is our God.’"

The question is, is there any way this chapter of Zechariah (chapter 13) can be made to apply to the whole world, that is, to all the (about) 6 billion people alive now. In other words, is Zechariah 13 saying that in the end times, 2/3 of all Israel are killed to leave one-third where I define Israel as including the lost ten tribes which Herbert Armstrong talks about, i.e., including the United Kingdom, the U.S.A., Canada, Australia, etc. Or does this 2/3 apply to the whole world or 4 billion out of the current (about) 6 billion? After reading 7 different versions of the Bible on the subject of Zechariah 13, NONE would allow more easily the idea of 4 billion dying than the Revised Standard Version which says (Zechariah 13:8): "in the whole land, says the Lord, two thirds shall be cut off and perish, And one third will be left alive."

On the other hand, the "two-thirds(that) shall be cut off" would have to be of Israel because they would have had to have some kind of special relationship with God to be cut off from, i.e., this 2/3 had to be of Israel, where all the Israelites living then could not possibly be much more than 700 million - even given the insight of Herbert Armstrong. 2/3s of 700 million would mean a body count of 466 million with 233 million of Israelites left. Numerically, 466 million compared to 4 billion is a little less than one tenth.

Further, Zechariah 13:9 has God saying of the 1/3 left, that "They are my people, ‘and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’"

Give me a single argument that Zechariah 13 isn’t about Israel.

Zechariah 14:21 says ( the Revised Standard Version) "... and every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be sacred to the Lord of Hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the flesh of the sacrifice ..." Tell me how this is going to work once Jesus gave Himself for the sins of the world? Whatever, it seems that any way we can possibly allow as much as possible of Zechariah to be true is if it’s a part of the Revelation scenario.

Revelation 9:15 and 9:18 both talk about one of the plagues/judgments which gives a significant - numerically large - number of mankind killed and they both say it would be of "a third of mankind".

Meanwhile Jesus is talking about the end times in the gospels and He offers two options for the disaster after the abomination which makes desolate. The first option happens when the abomination which makes desolate occurs on a Sabbath (i.e., Saturday) or in the winter. In that case, there will be the greatest disaster of all times - even the Flood when only 8 of Noah’s family - including himself - survived but all the rest of mankind at that time was killed. That is 8 out of say (my guesstimate of the population at that time) 2 billion died. Thus, Jesus’ first option - the worst disaster ever - would allow no more than about 10 to be saved with the rest of the population of the earth killed. That is 8 out of 2 billion for the Flood versus the worst disaster of 10 out of 6 billion. So Zechariah 13 talks about a scenario for the end times in Revelation 9:15 and 18 as being a subset of the Revelation plague killing one third, i.e., 2 billion out of 6 billion with a "goodly" part of that plague/judgment being 466 million of Israelites.

Then Jesus offers another option - the disaster which comes after the abomination which makes desolate occurs on every day of the year other than a Sabbath or the winter.

If you haven’t already guessed, I am a Jew at heart, and especially love the Ten Commandments and the true day of rest, i.e., Saturday.

After Jesus and the Virgin Mary were vomited up by a "beast" I started going each day with one half cup or less of pot liquor and that’s all I needed. Thus I think I might be - just maybe- a candidate for John 4:14 - "but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life." (The foregoing means no death for the one being talked about ). Then John 7:37 says, "If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the scripture said, ‘From his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water. " That refers, in many cases, to the rivers of life flowing from the New Jerusalem as a trickle and building up to mighty streams as Ezekiel describes. And I deeply wonder if some of the cardiovascular embryological arches in this person didn’t wither up after birth but remained as long as that person did "good enough". Whatever, I am terrified by the idea of becoming the fountain of living water because of what happened to Jesus in respect to Communion.

In January 5,1972 was my experience of the abomination which makes desolate in the Moon. Anybody who has read Genesis should know that the Bible says that ALL the stars and universes are governed by the Moon. The abomination which made desolate , therefore changed all these stars and universes for the worse. Things got so bad that the extraterrestrials of the book of Joel decided to reconnoiter in late 1972/early 1973. After about 22 years - in the early summer of 1994, they answered their questions and found that humans had corrupted the Moon and, therefore, ALL creation. These extraterrestrials are horses with human heads and of about 8 to 10 tall ( although one version of the Bible has these extraterrestrials as smallish - I can’t find that reference now). Their general, Manis, talked to me quite a few times and really didn’t like me at all. Now he’s undergone a change and likes me quite a bit. Whatever, he finally decided to leave a small crew of watchers behind to keep him updated while he was away and started out the 12- year trip to his home world. Then to get prepared for the large force that is going to invade the earth would take about four months. Then it would take about another 12 years to get here and mount a demolishing attack on ALL mankind. That would make the time of the almost wipeout of the human race no sooner than summer of 2019. Of course, I am leery about this date because everybody else’s date has been proven wrong, and Jesus said that nobody knows the date of the end times except God alone - not even Jesus Himself.. However, I do think I can reasonably say that 2019 is the earliest. About 16 years ago it was like God talked to me and said, "You will solve time, so I will give you time to solve...(one of your main problems)". Further, Amos 3:7 says, "Surely the Lord God does nothing Unless He reveals His secret counsel to His servants the prophets. " The Bible says that one of the main duties of all prophets is to tell people what God is doing in the present as well as in future times. As far as I’m concerned, it is the duty of not just prophets but of everybody who has any knowledge of these matters to let his/her fellow men/women know what he/she thinks is going on. Ezekiel 3:18-20 says, "When I say to the wicked,’You shall surely die’ and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. "Yet if you have warned the wicked,, and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered yourself. "Again, when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and I place an obstacle before him, he shall die; since you have not warned him, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood I will require at your hand."

As to the extraterrestrial army that comes to wipe out mankind, Joel 2:6-10 says (The Living Bible) "Fear grips the waiting people; their faces grow pale with fright. These soldiers charge like infantry; they scale the walls like picked and trained commandos. Straight forward they march, never breaking ranks. They never crowd each other. Each is right in place NO WEAPON CAN STOP THEM, They swarm upon the city; they run upon the walls; they climb up into the houses, coming like thieves through the windows. The earth quakes before them and the heavens tremble. The sun and Moon are obscured and the stars are hid." Joel 2:3 says, "A fire consumes before them, And behind them a flame burns. The land is like the garden of Eden before them, But a desolate wilderness behind them, and nothing at all escapes them."

And, although I don’t want this most disastrous outcome - mostly because I would miss TV and automobiles and busses and trains and computers - it might not be that bad after the initial adjustment, to be involved in helping set up things so that the New Jerusalem comes down to earth and mankind’s favorite work will be tending and keeping the Garden of Eden that will be on earth, along with the New Jerusalem. Taking care of the Garden of Eden was the initial job God gave to Adam and Eve. until they ate of the forbidden fruit, which initiated the Fall of all mankind. Further, I trust God when the Bible says - 1Corinthians 2:9 - "but just as it is written, ‘Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love him." So I am looking for things even better than automobiles and buses and computers and TV - E.g., God promises His people Eagles’ wings which is better than helicopters - although we still might need helicopters for freight. Much better than this technology - as eagles’ wings are better for getting around than helicopters - at the same time that these goodies of God will be realized in the His - natural - way.

Right after mankind’s creation he and she ate of the forbidden fruit, this resulting in original sin. Mankind got another chance to start all over with Noah and the Flood. But again the whole effort was torpedoed when Noah got drunk, this resulting in slavery after the Flood amongst other problems. For the final chance, i.e., returning to the original, once again diet will determine who gets saved - where a seeded tree fruitarian diet is the only diet somewhat entirely positive. Out of the 12 stars in the crown of the woman destined to be Jesus’ mother the second time around - if Isaiah is right - only about 8 - including the one man and that woman - will survive. PLUS, there is little doubt in my mind that that woman will be the second appearance of Abishag, who is, according to me, the black woman who was the subject of the Song of Songs, and who won the beauty contest and became the old king David’s nurse - she warmed his bed but they had no sex. In line with my interpretation of the Song of Songs that Abishag will be the second Jesus’ mother, may I pont out that "Abi" means "my father" and "saga " means "to grow, grow great:" and "sagah" means "to grow, increase" and "shagah" means "to go astray" and " shaga" means "to be mad": YET the New American Standard Version of the Bible’s Concordance says that the name Abishag means "my father is a wanderer".

As to the possibility of me becoming a polygamist; If I am the second David and given verses like 2 Samuel3:2-5 and 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, David had at least 17 sons. His first wife was also the younger daughter, Michal, of King Saul’s two daughters . David had no children by her - partly because, as far as I know, David danced so vigorously before the ark of the covenant as to expose himself and this got her very upset. 2 Samuel 3:2-5 says, "Sons were born to David at Hebron: his first-born was Amnon ( "faithful"), by Ahinoam("my brother is delight") the Jezreelitess; and his second, Chileab ( "God is my judge"), by Abigail ("my father is joy") the widow of Nabal the Carmelite; and the third, Absalom("my father is peace"), the son of Maacah (an Isr. Name: also a non-Isr. Name: also a region in Syria), the daughter of Talmai, king of Geshur; and the fourth, Adonijah ("my lord is Yahweh") the son of Haggith ("festal") ; and the fifth, Shephatiah ("Yah has judged"), the son of Abital ("my father is (the) dew"); and the sixth, Ithream ( a son of David), by David’s wife Eglah ("heifer"). These were born to David at Hebron. 1 Chronicles 3:1-9 says, Now these were the sons of David who were born to him in Hebron: the first-born was Amnon, by Ahinoam the Jezreelitess; the second was Daniel (sic), by Abigail the Carmelitess; the third was Absalom the son of Maacah, the daughter of Talmai king of Geshur; the fourth was Adonijah the son of Haggith; the fifth was Shephatiah, by Abital; the sixth was Ithream by his wife, Eglah. Six were born to him in Hebron, and there he reigned seven years and six months,. And in Jerusalem he reigned thirty-three years. And these were born to him in Jerusalem: Shimea ( Four Isr. ), Shobab ("turning back, recusant, apostate"), Nathan ( "to give"), and Solomon (David’s son and suceessor; elsewhere named Jedidiah which means "Beloved of Yah"), four, by Bathshua (" daughter of oath"; perhaps "daughter of opulence")the daughter of Ammiel: And Ibhar ("He chooses"), Elishama ("God has heard"), Eliphelet ("God is deliverance"), Nogah ("brightness"), Nepheg(of uncertain der.), and Japhia (a king of Lachish; also a son of david, also a place on the border of Zebulun) Elishama ( sic), Eliada ("God knows"), and Eliphelet ( sic) , nine( sic ).All these were the sons of David, besides the sons of the concubines; and Tamar was their sister." As to the David’s concubines 2 Samuel 15:16 says that David left behind in Jerusalem ten concubines when his son Absalom rebelled against him and drove David out of Jerusalem - and Absalom went into all ten on the roof of the palace where all Israel could see him doing so. But there is nothing I know of which would indicate that David had more than ten concubines, `

David was not that worried about his next job after his first time on earth - that is helping the earth worms, which job was first given to Jacob and all the tribes of Israel and that is what made

the Israelites special to God.

 

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